The Stubborn Loser Menu Fuss

The Stubborn Loser & The Menu Fuss

By Meggan Larson


If you’ve been on Facebook for the last week or so there has been a lot of (dare I say) drama on the boards about the stubborn loser menu hidden within the paid membership of the new Trim Healthy Mama membership site. It’s a gem of a menu, it really is, but you need to be a paid member to access it and that has some mamas fuming. Of course after purchasing the book(s), specialty items you’ve never heard of, paying more for healthy food in general, it can seem a bit much to then have to pay for a specialty menu that’s getting stalled mamas a lot of results. In fact, most people who use it for a week are losing a good 5lbs right away after having been stalled for many months!

I’m going to let you in on a little secret though…


The menu isn’t new. In fact, it uses knowledge you should already have if you’ve read the book. The biggest thing I saw while looking at it was that it really takes you back to the basics before all the fancy pants recipes that we’re now used to. It’s the original plan, very simply laid out in a menu for you. Deep S or E for most meals with FPs thrown in and most snacks being made up of FPs – but the original FPs like the puddings and tummy tucking ice cream, not the borderline ones like a full cup of greek yogurt with a full cup of berries. No heavy S meals, very limited dairy etc. I can see clearly why it works after a stall and that is simply because as human beings we tend to overcomplicate things. We think of all of these really cool ways to make old favourites on plan, use way too much cream cheese in most of them, and end up eating a majority of heavy S meals because we got bored of all of the original recipes. The thing is though, the original recipes were what originally lost us the weight right? We were enamored with how simple this plan was and how easily we were losing weight by eating a yummy salad topped with chicken and drizzled with an olive oil and vinegar dressing and eating some pudding made with 3 ingredients. We traded simplicity for extraordinary recipes that were much more difficult to make but presented so well to our friends and family who weren’t on plan. What we were really telling our friends and family though was that this plan was challenging, took a bazillion ingredients, and about 40 hours/week in the kitchen. Sure, you can do it that way. But there is a much simpler way too and that’s actually how the plan started.


ps…As always I’d love to hear from you so if you have any questions or comments please comment below or email me at


Meggan Larson is a wife, mom of three, and challenge overcomer! Being diagnosed with a rare form of cancer and undergoing aggressive chemotherapy when her second born child was only three months old, gave Meggan an expected twist to her life. Dealing with pregnancy weight gain and the debilitating effects of chemotherapy, Meggan’s weight soared to over 228 pounds. Feeling humiliated with no desire to socialize, Meggan was desperate for a change. Shortly after losing 20 pounds with the Trim Healthy Mama program, Meggan found out she was pregnant with baby number three, which ended in an emergency C-section and unexpected hysterectomy. Despite the challenges she faced, Meggan has just celebrated her one year “trimiversary”, and her success of releasing just over 60 pounds! Meggan is confident that her success on plan is “doable” for anyone looking to gain back their health and wanting to live a trim and healthy lifestyle!

Check out Meggan Larson over at Desire to Inspire!





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12 comments on “The Stubborn Loser Menu Fuss

  1. Tamara Skaggs says:

    As a picky eater who is having trouble losing weight due to stress and just plain lack of time to cook everything, I would love to talk to you about how to really do the plan as the basic but with foods I actually like.

  2. Niki C says:

    Thank you for the reminder! I have the original book, and that was how I lost all the weight after my baby. I guess I got lost when the new books came out I lost track of the basics.

  3. Tina says:

    I apologize this is with sarcasm. I have all the books, I have many special ingredients because when you first read the books it is overwhelming and confusing by the time you figure it out, now it is wrong. When we are talking about the basics, or the special losers menu, I feel like we have gone back to well this is a regular diet of counting calories but separating fuels, and now very limited things like dairy which for some reason I misunderstood what was being said “that as long as we separate or fuels were are good to go” my interpretation. So basics are protein every meal, S-with fat, E-with grain, and keep it under a certain number of calories, It seems like it just keeps getting more complicated. Like I said this is with sarcasm, I am just frustrated.

    • laundrymoms says:

      I get it, it can be frustrating. THM has never been about calorie counting. It might do you some good to re-read the chapters specifically about the plan and implementing it. Or (and this is in no way meant to be offensive) maybe THM isn’t for you. I think it’s important to consider whether or not something is too frustrating to continue with. It took me a long time to understand the plan but now that I do it’s like second nature to me. If I was still struggling at this point I would likely decide it wasn’t for me. Have you tried the menu plans that the laundry moms have? They might help you figure this out. Sorry it’s been so frustrating for you.

      ~ Meggan 🙂

    • dana says:

      I feel your pain, Tina. I’ve been on THM for 2 yrs, have lost 70lbs, stalled for 8 months now (with 15lbs gained). But I also feel this post is very correct… I’ve gotten too far from the original, easy process of keeping meals clean, eating lots of protein with each meal, sticking to S, E or FP. I know over the past year I’ve strayed from this (what’s a bit more cream cheese in my MIM? it is still an S!) or trying to push the limits (if 10 carbs is ok, how bad are 15 carbs ? ) and watching portions… 3 hrs between meals, etc. I’ve started to get back to the basics again (lived off of eggs, smoothies, and LLC with wasa crackers!) but it worked… I’m not 100% back there yet (kinda fluctuates day by day… ) but working on it. It worked in the beginning, it will work again. 🙂 I’ve just drifted too far… maintaining the weight loss (the 10-15lbs doesn’t bother me, most of it was over the xmas holiday with too many “treats”, but i’m maintaining) but i still want to lose 20-30 more to be where i feel i should. It is only complicated if you make it that way!! (ugh or sometimes explaining it to others… seems so much more complicated than it needs to be!) Good lucki!!

  4. Chris Helgeland says:

    I am interested in the stubborn loser menu. I am the heaviest I have ever been and desperately want to lose weight. My weight seems to keep climbing. I want to turn this around.

  5. suzanne says:

    ive been “doing” thm now for about 2 months……..started in nov but tried to be careful during the holidays. but since Jan been ON IT. All breakfast and dinners have been THM except a few on the weekends. Lunch usually is small thm quick something. Of course Ive not lost anything or i wouldnt be written here…..right :/ We have used recipes straight from the book. Are these the basic ones you are talking about? We ate healthy clean, green food before THM. So the meals on THM are delightful for us. My weight loss problem comes from years of dieting many years ago thus I have NO metabolism in addition to NO hormones (hysterctomy 15 years ago with no hormone replacement). I love the everything about THM but I must lose weight and I dont want to resort to diet pills as I did years ago :/
    A couple of questions….
    I dont really understand FP!
    Ive mainly used S meals thinking this would be best for weight loss since theres less carbs. Is this the wrong thing to do for weight loss?
    The rest of my family doesnt need to lose weight but i think they should be ok on the same meals as I since they are healthy?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

    • laundrymoms says:

      Hi Suzanne!

      You definitely need to incorporate carbs into your week (no matter how scary they seem!). If you only eat S meals then your body will get used to that and will stall. You need between 5-8 E meals/week so keep that in mind when you’re planning. The basic meals I’m talking about are things that use very little processed food. Fried eggs, a sweet potato with lean meat, a salad with protein and olive oil, etc. It sounds like you need to heal your body from the years of dieting etc. Have you seen our free menu plans? You may want to give that a shot and see where you’re at after 3 months. Please feel free to email me if you’d like more one on one help.

      ~ Meggan 🙂

  6. Christina says:

    Hi Meggan!
    Where can I find the ‘Menu Plans that the laundry moms have’ that you mention in a comment up
    Thank you!!!

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